BA IN 4 WEEKS
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Lawrie Miller 1997 - 2004
BA in 4 Weeks Online Degree and Distance Learning Knowledge Base
at the local library I saw signs of a company that promise to help you get
a degree from Excelsior, when I called, thet say all they do is to sell you
the books necessary to get 96 credits ($2250) when I ask about the rest,
they said, that is easy you could do your major anywhere...
Here is my question to you, they also said, they help people w/ GED and
count that as 24 credits how true is that?
You wouldn’t be awarded 24
semester hours credit for any learning at or below U.S. 12th grade. In the
case of states other than New York, it could be that they are looking to
use college level credit to “meet or exceed” some or all GED requirements
for the award of the General Education Diploma. In that case, they might
then look to apply those same credits to a college degree program.
Certainly, Excelsior College offers New York residents who did not graduate
high school, the opportunity of the award of a New York State equivalency
diploma (AKA a GED) once they have completed 24 semester hours at college
level. Sort of a two-for–one deal. Those who qualify might do well to grab
it. Great bang per buck. Akin to a happy meal with large drink and a toy.
You do not need third party agents to mediate this, however. $2250 for
books covering the degree minus the major, seems a trifle excessive in the
“BA in 4 Weeks” economy. Cost of books in the Bachelor Degree manual
detailed this site, is under $200 for the complete set (some books are used
in multiple exams). Many here with pre-existing credit might reasonably
expect to complete the WHOLE degree for that sum ($2250 - to include
enrollment and exam fees) or not much more than that. It may be that other
learners will consider the BA in 4 Weeks two hundred dollar book
recommendations a little meager of their needs, and determine they will
spend more. Yet none, I think, would be well served by the arrangement you
completed my AA from TESC a couple of eyars ago, and am looking to finsih
the BA off within the next 6 months via 2 GREs and Excelsior. My question
is this, however: For my AA English writing requirement, I took the CLEP
English w/Essay which Excelsior isn't keen on, but I've wondered whether it
may be accepted anyway as it's an already transcripted part of my TESC AA.
Any thots on this?
I suspect they will NOT accept
it in fulfillment of the Written English Requirement (WER).
However, you can argue that you are transferring, not just credit hours,
but an AA degree, which testifies you have met traditional General Ed.
requirements to include the written English requirement, of another
regionally accredited institution. You may reasonably point to their
(Excelsior’s) policy with regard to second bachelor degree applicants.
These learners, though they may have exactly the same six credits as do
you, from a pass in the CLEP English Composition with Essay exam, WILL have
the WER waived. That is, they will not be required to take the ECE English
You can focus on the point that by virtue of their existing bachelor’s
degree, Excelsior deems these applicants to be competent in and to have met
requirements in written English. Since the only real evidence of this,
where they have demonstrated competency, is in the pass they achieved in
the relevant CLEP exam, what, objectively, with respect to the WER,
differentiates you from them?
If, by virtue of their performance in an exam or exams comprising a general
portion of the degree, they are deemed to have demonstrated competency,
then, it is necessarily the case that you, having met precisely the same
general requirements by way of the same assessments, must have demonstrated
the same competencies. If equity is to be preserved and basic standards of
fairness met, Excelsior must afford you the same benefit it affords them.
If Excelsior counters that possession of a bachelor’s degree adds some
extra qualifying merit, and therefore justifies the waiver in their case
but not yours, you may reasonably ask the assessor to delineate what it is
about the bachelor’s degree with the exception of the demonstration of
competence in the relevant English CLEP tests, that justifies the award of
this extra qualifying merit. What objective evidence is there that the
bachelor graduate’s competence in written English is superior to yours?
If a graduate earned a bachelor degree by way of objective proficiency
exams, there IS no evidence. The only testament to competence resides in
the record of their performance in the single written examination to which
they were subjected, namely the CLEP “English Composition with Essay”. They
have exactly the same record as do you. No better.
Therefore, you respectfully request, nay, insist, that you be given the
same consideration in respect of the waiver of the WER.
You could try something like that. Who knows, they may bite. You have
nothing to lose.
it possible to earn credits by taking these exams, and then to transfer
those credits to the local college, and earn my degree from my local
Yes, it is possible to earn and
apply exam credit to a degree offered by your local college or university.
If you mean, can you earn the entire degree, or most of the degree at your
local college by testing out in proficiency exams, the short answer is, no.
Most colleges and universities restrict the amount of credit they award for
passing proficiency exams. Some may grant no credit at all, but most will
The Big Three of COSC, Excelsior, and TESC, allow 100% exam-based credit in
fulfillment of degree requirements, of course. The BOG and BOT BA degrees
can be earned in large part by testing out, too, as I recall. Links to
institutions offering these can be found at the top of the BA in 4 Weeks
online and distance learning resources section. The advantage of the
BOT/BOG BA is that degrees are awarded by large and well established state
universities. They're also cheap, and Fed funds are readily available.
See your local college academic counselor to establish how much credit they
will allow in transfer to THEIR degree program, and of that total, how much
can comprise exam-based credit. Other point would be, how much new credit
may be earned by testing out, once you have enrolled. All in all it will
likely not be a significant fraction of required degree credit. That is why
I've gone on about the BOT and the BOG. These may prove your best bet, if the
main assessment institutions wont do.
Finally, you could look to bank exam-based credit and try to improve its
currency that way (but I do not think it works), or you could launder the
credit by enrolling in one of the Big Three and applying it to one of their
degree programs. When you have enough, you could attempt to transfer it,
lock, stock, and barrel, to a degree program at your local college. Might
work - up to 90 semester hours.
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